No doubt many have heard of the connections between Elliott Wave and Gann Theory. What is interesting is the similarity between David Bowden’s Gann based ABC System and the Elliott Wave System in ProfitSource. It is something I often see questions about.
Now before you ask yourself, “doesn’t Elliott Wave use ABC’s too?” The answer is, “yes, but no!” Yes, Elliott Wave does use ABC counts, but no they are not the same ones used in Safety in the Market’s ABC system.
However the two do have some rather large similarities. To understand them let’s first think about what we are doing with a Wave 4 Buy; essentially we are trading in anticipation that a retracement has been completed (Wave 4) and the overall trend will now continue upward. The reverse is true for Wave 4 Sells.
Looking at the basic premise of an ABC trade, we realize that it too is designed to trade the end of a retracement against a larger move.
With this in mind, let’s take a look at an example of what I’m talking about on David Jones (DJS). The first chart is a weekly one, with a recent ABC trade from mid-August highlighted.
Chart 1 – DJS Weekly ABC
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Where is the Wave 4 Buy you ask? Well switching to a daily chart and applying the Elliott Wave, in Chart 2 we can see a Wave 4 Buy appearing on the same date. I have manually labeled the locations of the weekly ABC points in blue. Notice that B is located at the same turning point as Wave 3 and C at the same turning point as Wave 4. While the major move (2-3, A-B) the retracements (3-4, B-C) are being measured against is different, the trades are actually very similar.
Chart 2 – DJS Daily Wave 4 Buy
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The main difference is the number of bars in each set up. A Wave 4 Buy will comprise more bars on average compared to an ABC. This is because the comparable ABC will occur on a higher timeframe. Often a strong Wave 4 Buy on a daily chart will also be an ABC long on a weekly chart. I have talked about the similarities between Gann and Elliott before and this is yet another example of the two working very much in unison.
As many traders of either method will agree, the biggest killer of both ABCs and Wave 4 trades is entering before the retracement is over. Combing these two techniques and strengths of these two trading methods can help overcome this challenge and find better trades.
For those yet to encounter either trading method, the Elliott set-ups are available in ProfitSource (www.profitsource.com) and ABCs in Safety in the Market’s courses (www.safetyinthemarket.com.au).